Session Start: Sun Aug 11 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[06:34]<+camerongray> Determined to sit and study without going to the shops, turn on calculator "Your batteries are low." - Well, that's decided then!
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[08:11]<jamer> So once I get a battery into this laptop my laptop will be my portable carry and the desktop will be my work station
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[09:45]<+camerongray> <guest_04> Hello in wondering if my 2002 HL drive will work for my new build
[09:45]<+camerongray> <guest_04> Im*
[09:45]<+camerongray> <lostcoast> it should work
[09:45]<+camerongray> So, 2002 would be IDE...
[09:47]<mib_k82bcr> what do you mean
[09:52]<+camerongray> Person asked if a 2002 drive would work on a new build - He made a huge assumption - A drive from 2002 will be IDE, a new machine is very unlikely to include IDE ports
[09:59]<+camerongray> Yet he happily picks me up for assuming someone who want to reinstall their machine would have a COA
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[10:27]<PCdoc> lol
[10:28]<PCdoc> he (lc) is from old days probably doesnt know about sata :P
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[13:57]<jamer> i just realized... i have more than one desktop computer atm
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[15:07]<+camerongray> Now db is... err... incorrecting people!
[15:07]<+camerongray> <sketch> what is the difference between 2.4ghz wireless and 5ghz wireless
[15:07]<+camerongray> <db100547> sketch: 2.6 Ghz lol .
[15:07]<+camerongray> <Guest19981> hmm
[15:07]<+camerongray> <sketch> ye 2.6**
[15:24]<+camerongray> And for the second time in 2 days, db repeats what I just said!
[15:24]<+camerongray> <camerongray> And for motherboard, go with Gigabyte or ASUS
[15:24]<+camerongray> <guest_51> mobo was biostar fm2
[15:24]<+camerongray> <camerongray> Biostar are great as far as budget boards go, but your budget should allow something a bit better
[15:24]<+camerongray> <guest_51> gigabyte was like 5 more
[15:24]<+camerongray> <camerongray> I'd go with that then
[15:24]<+camerongray> <camerongray> Nothing wrong with Biostar really (I use them in builds myself), Gigabyte boards are just a little higher quality
[15:24]<+camerongray> <db100547> guest_51: igf you get either of those , go for the gigabyte mobo .
[15:24]<+camerongray> <db100547> if*
[15:27]<+camerongray> That's what I just said! ARG! <db100547> guest_51: reason for the gigabyte ... Biostar are regarded as 'budget' mobo's , whereas gigabyte are always in the top 2 , for reliability .
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[17:29]<@BC_Programming> !fc nanaimo BC
[17:30]<+camerongray> Hey BC_Programming
[17:30]<+camerongray> When do you start work?
[17:31]<@BC_Programming> no idea
[17:31]<@BC_Programming> I have to get them the criminal record check first
[17:31]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[17:31]<@BC_Programming> Which they said would be finished (the RCMP I mean) around Tues.
[17:31]<@BC_Programming> of course the downside to that is I will have to walk 12KM to get it, and then 12KM back
[17:31]<+camerongray> Then it turns out that you regularly get drunk and go on complete rampages and then wake up with no recollection of what happened!
[17:33]<+camerongray> I wonder what would happen if it did fail (Not that it will)
[17:33]<@BC_Programming> would probably depend what came back
[17:33]<+camerongray> Yeah
[17:33]<@BC_Programming> I'd be curious what it was myself though
[17:33]<+camerongray> hehehe
[17:34]<@BC_Programming> The one thing I can think is if it includes police reports where I had some involvement
[17:34]<+camerongray> Depends if you committed a crime or not :P
[17:34]<@BC_Programming> yeah I didn't
[17:35]<+camerongray> Funny thing though, For fixing PCs at a youth club, I have to have a check but for my actual job, nothing!
[17:35]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: You just helped :P
[17:37]<@BC_Programming> No... my parents call the police pretty much twice a month because they are idiots
[17:38]<+camerongray> Any reason? Or "I think I'll call them tonight?"
[17:38]<@BC_Programming> They drink too much
[17:38]<+camerongray> AHh
[17:38]<+camerongray> That shouldn't affect it
[17:39]<@BC_Programming> The last time I remember speaking to them personally was when I was <18 anyway
[17:39]<+camerongray> Our community police officer at home regularly pops in just to "Check if we are having any issues with anything" - Interestingly it's only when there is football on TV :P
[17:39]<+camerongray> I called them once (101 so the non-emergency number) thanks to ADT being a bunch of idiots!
[17:40]<+camerongray> ADT management: "Durr, lets get a scruffy guy to walk around houses asking about their alarm systems in order to sell more stuff"
[17:41]<+camerongray> "But, couldn't that look suspicious?" "Nah, he'll have a badge saying 'ADT representitive'"
[17:42]<+camerongray> So a scruffy homeless-looking guy comes to the door with his badge and says something along the line of "I'm from ADT, we are doing security checks in the area at the moment and see you have an alarm, mind if I look at it?"
[17:43]<@BC_Programming> lol
[17:43]<+camerongray> So yeah, I'm just going to let a random guy saying he's from ADT (Who don't even hold our alarm contract and never have) come in and play with our system!
[17:43]<+camerongray> "Oh yeah, there's a sensor there and there, that window is also alarmed, there's the cable for the power supply, and that one there does the backup power, want me to log you in to the supervisor mode?"
[17:44]<+camerongray> So I obviously phoned the police :P
[17:44]<+camerongray> In the end it turned out that it was ADT after they had recieved loads of calls from people in the area and the police contacted them to check!
[17:45]<+camerongray> I mean, what did they expect? "Oh, yeah, we have an alarm but it doesn't work"
[17:46]<+camerongray> So of course the police come and ask me to discribe the guy - This is literally the thing I am worst at!
[17:47]<+camerongray> I can picture him, but apart from "Scruffy, had a blue rucksack and a yellow high-vis vest" I can't describe anything else!
[17:48]<@BC_Programming> "well, he had a torso, he had four appendages, two that came out of the top of his shoulders, and two descending straight down from the hip. He appeared to move primarilly through bipedal locomotion... each of his upper appendages had a single joint, and it ended in a grasping set of phlanges which he used to manipulate tools. His lower appendages were less visible to me and were within small,
[17:48]<@BC_Programming> leather sacks which I believe are called shoes"
[17:48]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[17:48]<+camerongray> I mean, he looked drunk too
[17:49]<+camerongray> Like, who honestly thought that "marketing" would work!
[17:50]<@BC_Programming> "ADT: so secure, because we send common, underpaid riff-raff to ensure you get the best security experience"
[17:50]<+camerongray> Surely "I'm from ADT and wondering if you are inteststed in us taking over your alarm contract" would be much better than "Can I look at your alarm?" - ANd like make them wear a suit or something, not look like the guy that installs the stuff!
[17:50]<+camerongray> haha!
[17:51]<@BC_Programming> It seems the scanner in my brothers printer still works, that is useful
[17:51]<+camerongray> We had fun with our alarm, 2 calls from the police in two days - Called the company out to fix what seemed to be a fault - Guy walks in, moves the helium balloon from in front of the sensor :P
[17:51]<@BC_Programming> it literally fell off a truck when we moved lol
[17:51]<+camerongray> hahaa
[17:51]<@BC_Programming> First thing I think I'll do is get proper office equipment
[17:52]<+camerongray> yeah, like new pens instead of ones stolen from random places :P
[17:52]<@BC_Programming> maybe even a separate phone line
[17:53]<+camerongray> Don't you get a cellphone though?
[17:53]<@BC_Programming> not right away I don't think
[17:53]<+camerongray> Ahh, hmm
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> I'm not entirely convinced this will work out tbh
[17:54]<+camerongray> oh?
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> nobody around me is making any effort
[17:54]<+camerongray> Ahh
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> Brother is still in this room and has no plans to do anything
[17:54]<+camerongray> I'm sure it will though, they seem to understand your situation, like with them giving you money for the check
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> our stupid dog means I will be forced to use a headset because he goes ABSOLUTELY NUTS for like 20 minutes when he hears anything
[17:55]<+camerongray> Once you work there a bit you'll be able to find your own place
[17:55]<@BC_Programming> Yes
[17:55]<@BC_Programming> that is first on my list actually
[17:55]<@BC_Programming> which apparently is something my parents don't seem to realize... you guys REALLY think I'm going to stay here? yeah no
[17:56]<@BC_Programming> Talking about moving to a three bedroom... Are you REALLY that dense... last time I was going to move out my Mum threw a fit so I changed my mind... not this time
[17:56]<@BC_Programming> in fact maybe I just won't say anything
[17:56]<+camerongray> Yeah
[17:56]<@BC_Programming> just get my computer through the window or something
[17:56]<@BC_Programming> be gone one day
[17:56]<@BC_Programming> "where's your brother" "oh yeah he moved out"
[17:56]<+camerongray> hehehe
[17:57]<+camerongray> My parents were okay, just kept trying to scare me and failing!
[17:57]<@BC_Programming> how?
[17:57]<+camerongray> "You'll have to learn to cook" - So... I press "Power" then put in the time, then press start :P
[17:58]<@BC_Programming> For me it was when we were evicted from a house because they wanted to renovate or something
[17:58]<+camerongray> Ahh
[17:58]<@BC_Programming> And they were all gung ho about finding some place for everybody
[17:58]<+camerongray> "You'll have to pay for all that electricity" - Which costs less than my bus travel from home every month (I can now walk to uni/work)
[17:59]<@BC_Programming> and then they find out that I'm looking for my own and my Mum goes nuts about how it "ruins everything"
[17:59]<+camerongray> Ahh
[17:59]<+camerongray> That does sound a bit harder than me
[17:59]<+camerongray> For me it was "The house is too far from uni/work, there isn't enough space and the broadband is too slow"
[17:59]<@BC_Programming> though I didn't so much change my mind as I wasn't able to find the place for rent
[18:00]<+camerongray> Ahh, that's the easy part here - Flats for rent everywhere!
[18:00]<+camerongray> Huge variations in condition though
[18:00]<@BC_Programming> No I mean I couldn't find <it> as in the one I phoned to see
[18:00]<+camerongray> Ahh!
[18:01]<+camerongray> Some we looked at had wallpaper haning off the walls!
[18:02]<+camerongray> This one was the best we saw! And I just finished fixing the shower door using cable ties and bin bags!
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> The one thing I can see working really great though
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> is if the upstairs neighbors finally got kicked out
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> then I could move in there heheh
[18:03]<+camerongray> hahaha, bit close to your parents though :P
[18:03]<+camerongray> Hopefully the letting agent will replace the shower door eventually!
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> ahh
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> but the door would lock
[18:03]<+camerongray> lol!
[18:44]<+camerongray> I've never seen such typing skill! http://pastebin.com/JCLRQCbL
[18:45]<@BC_Programming> the punctuation would drive me mad on it's own
[18:45]<@BC_Programming> somebody needs to actually ask him for a model number or something
[18:45]<+camerongray> haha
[18:45]<+camerongray> Like, how can you even do it!
[18:46]<+camerongray> I have to physically stop to do it!
[18:46]<@BC_Programming> because I'm 100% certain that there weren't terminals that required that to begin with, let alone the fact that he's not using one anyway
[18:46]<@BC_Programming> I mean if it's just a bad habit, that's fine
[18:46]<+camerongray> Otherwise I automatically type comma then space - Even if I try!
[18:46]<@BC_Programming> but don't try to go all "ahh, that's because I worked on top-secret mainframe projects"
[18:46]<+camerongray> Exactly!
[18:47]<+camerongray> Doubt it's something to do with the mainframe, he can't even press the right letters
[18:49]<+camerongray> Now someone suggests memtest
[18:49]<+camerongray> <db100547> YEP, first thing i said . lol
[18:49]<+camerongray> First thing he said, yes, in amongst all the other random junk he spurted out
[18:50]<@BC_Programming> see that's the funny thing about when I'm in there
[18:50]<@BC_Programming> I don't hesitate to point out stupid stuff
[18:50]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:50]<@BC_Programming> like that "Windows workspace thing"
[18:51]<+camerongray> And that's why you should be there :P
[18:51]<@BC_Programming> I mean come on that was just retarded
[18:51]<+camerongray> But as yourself - Doubt they woulld go against one of the biggest forum members!
[18:51]<@BC_Programming> the best part was that he just kept going on about that and just gave up
[18:51]<+camerongray> Yeah, he does that
[18:51]<@BC_Programming> and then cited an article that basically said exactly what I did
[18:52]<@BC_Programming> Evidently missing that I was asking for evidence that this memory was "reserved for a workspace"
[18:52]<+camerongray> Keeps digging himeslf into a deeper hole, provides junk as "evidence" (Not what you asked for) then when you push him too hard he leaves for a "Meeting"
[18:53]<+camerongray> I'd love to see you there under your real nick, pissing him off but keeping within rules
[18:54]<+camerongray> Then when he brings up mainframes - "Oh, which one, I work with them?"
[18:54]<+camerongray> Then watch him die
[18:54]<@BC_Programming> or better
[18:54]<@BC_Programming> "you ever used a mainframe that ran THEOS?"
[18:54]<@BC_Programming> "yeah, I have a masters degree in THEOS"
[18:55]<+camerongray> haha yeah
[18:55]<@BC_Programming> THEOS BASIC is interesting btw... for example you can do substrings the way you do in python- var$[11:5]
[18:56]<+camerongray> Is that what you work with?
[18:56]<@BC_Programming> it's what I will be working with
[18:56]<+camerongray> Ahh, nice!
[18:56]<+camerongray> Then you can ask him questions
[18:56]<@BC_Programming> I don't know the exact details but AFAIK it will mostly be figuring out what the THEOS BASIC modules use, and then writing a semantically equivalent C# implementation
[18:57]<+camerongray> You really should hang out in the channel - Don't be a pain, but just correct him enough so he gets annoyed
[18:57]<+camerongray> And if you get banned, I doubt the rest of the forum would agree with it :P
[18:58]<+camerongray> And ask him if he has an MVP :P
[18:59]<@BC_Programming> lol
[18:59]<@BC_Programming> well my co-workers don't have one either... but alienating them would be a BAD IDEA... I may be an introvert but I don't have aspergers and am not socially ignorant
[19:00]<+camerongray> Yeah
[19:00]<@BC_Programming> Besides the fact that they think my code is excellent is already a good start... best not to ruin that by being a massive douche
[19:00]<+camerongray> Let them bring it up :P
[19:00]<+camerongray> "Oh you have an MVP, that's cool!"
[19:00]<@BC_Programming> in the interview it came up "by accident"
[19:00]<+camerongray> hahaha, how?
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> I think he mentioned they use Visual Studio Express 2010
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> and I said "I use 2012 Pro myself"
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> "Yeah that would be nice!"
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> "Well I was using 2008 bit I got 2012 free, so I figured why not"
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> "How do you get it free" (I imagine he was thinking ON NOES A PIRATE)
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> "Oh, MSDN subscription"
[19:02]<+camerongray> Ahh, lol!
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> "I had one... really pricey, couldn't afford it"
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> "Well I got that complimentary as well"
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> "oh cool, how?"
[19:03]<@BC_Programming> "One of the benefits of the MVP Award program, they also send this nifty package too"
[19:03]<@BC_Programming> I haven't talked to any of the other developers yet, just the one of them, who presumably is the lead developer
[19:03]<+camerongray> hehehe
[19:04]<+camerongray> I'd love to see db at work :P
[19:04]<+camerongray> Probably just a general "boss" - No knowledge of the stuff, just tells people what to do
[19:04]<@BC_Programming> I'll let them decide my competence level, rather than announcing it... that way I can totally fall back on the "I never said I was any good at this"
[19:05]<+camerongray> Exactly!
[19:05]<+camerongray> But picks up on things people say and repeats them to sound smart
[19:05]<+camerongray> Sort of like a parrot :P
[19:05]<@BC_Programming> parrots do it because they like the sound of their own voice
[19:05]<@BC_Programming> oh
[19:05]<@BC_Programming> that applies too I suppose
[19:05]<+camerongray> bahaha!
[19:06]<+camerongray> Pretty sure he's one of those people with a fancy suit and big breifcase who wants to seem impressive :P
[19:08]<@BC_Programming> I still think he's a Janitor
[19:08]<@BC_Programming> his understanding of computers primarily gleaned from post-it notes in the offices he cleans
[19:08]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[19:09]<+camerongray> "Clean Workspace"
[19:10]<@BC_Programming> heh it was funny when I was speaking to the owner also
[19:11]<@BC_Programming> "so you must have been working with computers since you were like 2 years old"
[19:12]<@BC_Programming> Told him my story :P
[19:12]<+camerongray> haha, your life story :P
[19:12]<@BC_Programming> how I didn't even own a PC until I was 16 and even then it was a 286... in 2002
[19:12]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[19:12]<@BC_Programming> I basically fast forwarded through computers from 1987 to the modern time
[19:13]<@BC_Programming> I even said when I remembered
[19:14]<@BC_Programming> About how Jamie (the lead dev, worked there 11 years) had been working there longer than I have owned any PCs
[19:15]<+camerongray> hahaha
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